How can i get the keypad working soon? The stuff i am getting is not being too helpful. -work up from principles. -looking at wrong parts in a word. For the login stuff how can I get the info from the files hassan showed me? What is the easiest way to handle this data. What language should I be using? To keep from reading the same stuff over and over can I erase the file after each read of it?? -Make a last time record and only get entries more recent than that time. separate table with timestamp. -use perl most likely When you log in from another place it may be you are not phisically there. How can i remedy this? Only use logins for the pts/* ?? Probobly not b/c you can have more pts/* logins if you are logged on from a CC comnputer lab with there virtual loging stuff. -use scan from bottom up and for any that have a cc comp connection ignore others for tat user name.